For those of us who worked hard to get our pictures just right to get certified and then to get on the directory...this just blows my mind.

I don't even go through lashes and glue fast enough to purchase $300 per quarter.

Anyone that is Xtreme certifed get this letter? And if so, what are your feelings? (I will call them directly but wanted to pow-wow with my lashers first).

Yes I did get that e-mail from xtreme and a letter as well. I find that to be a rediculous amount of money for 1 stylist to have to spend(I am the sole proprietor of my business)that is $1200 annually. After that whole HPA adhesive B.S. I experienced with them last October , I really have not been using their products exclusively (I tried to stay loyal, but I did not like how I was treated.)
I had a feeling that one day they were going to threaten us with using their products exclusively for us to remain on their website! I am seriously thinking of writing a letter to them explaining that what we had to achieve should be enough to remain on their website indefinitely! After all I went to 2 trainings, performed all the procedures to get certified and to be on their website; sending in 5 before and after pictures just to get certified and then you needed to send in another 5 to be on their website and now they are going to take us off if we don't spend X amount of dollars....that's crazy and just stupid customer relations on their part! I don't want to be at anyone's mercy! And also for a business owner you need to be cost effective to turn a profit, so why or how could one professional make money using their products exclusively...? And having to spend that much money every quarter just isn't going to work, for me any way...

Coney are you going to the NY beauty show? I don't think I am, I have gone for the last 4 years and nothing has really changed about it. Last year Xtreme lashes wasn't even there (BIG dissapointment!)I actually called them from the show to ask what booth they were at and they said they were not there because the previous year they were there and they did not have a good turn out.....duh that's like saying I won't be open this Tuesday because last Tuesday I had no clients!

Well sorry for blabbing on and on, but it's just how I feel about Xtreme right now....Thanks for letting me vent!

Extreme are threatening EE professionals with this sort behaviour (but that's no suprise to me). Its like they claim that their students are better than any other trained person, put them on a pedistool and then and blackmail them with something (as stupid) like a listing on their directory. If thats they way they are, who needs them anyway?

The whole thing Makes me smile......with ambition :)

lilycoe please email me.

I saw other big compnay is doing this as well? Was that Lavish? I am not sure....If anyone konw please post!

I understand "business is alway business", money to money relationship to everyone involved. But, when it's not fare, always cause a problem. First, I want to know how "$300" quarterly purachse due was calicurated and figured as a FARE business deal to every lashetrs on the directly. There was no explanation about it on their notice, and this new rule should also mentioned big and clearly for the people who will newly purchase their class
(cuz...would you sign up for the class right away, if you know this rule?)

Xtreme also fixed the formula of HPA (says longer lasting)and have now new Faster drying glue, too. Can this products PROMIS us a lot of happier customers which meke us Rich enouth to pay $300 qrtly purhcase?

I too believe all will be OK as I get ALOT of my clients as Pandora stated...through internet searches to directly to my website or Yelp or Insiderpages.

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skincarebykarol com

Bottom line is that it's a "Truth in Advertising" campaign. They want to know that when they promote you on their website that the lasher is in fact using the products that the potential client is searching for.

Why $300? Well not sure that was completely answered. I seem to hit that number because I purchase the Xtreme Eye Cleanser. I was very adamant about the fact that I would never even get close to that number if I were only buying lashes and glue. I don't go through $300 of lashes per quarter. And I don't buy their glue because it's way over priced and it doesn't perform as well as my current LashFX adhesive.

I also mentioned to him that someone's info wasn't getting updated........

I think they'll listen....we just need to let our voices be heard.

I happen to train now for another company and what they are all about is practicality in their approach. The owner is listed on several websites who know she owns her own company...once you're certified you should get to keep that status.

While looking on Xtreme website I couldn't find anywhere that said that the people "certified" have to use only Xtreme products...maybe it's there and the "Truth in Advertising" thing makes sense...but if they monitor and shop every single person on that list they will lose them all...no one likes "Big Brother" eyeballing what we're doing. Especially if we can find the same or better performing products for less money.
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Marcia W.
Marcia Walden Studio
www.MarciaWaldenSkinCare.com

I don't use any of the Lavish marketing material or the Lavish name, other than to say I was trained through them. I purchased the professional kit, so I have a ton of Lavish Lashes and misc products, but I doubt I will be purchasing anything from them again, considering I can get great product for a lot less money. After finding this site I believe even more that it is my own research, practice, dedication to perfection and safety, as well as the amazing advice from this chat, that will make me stand out--not what company I trained with. I loved my trainer--she was awesome and helped a lot, although she's no longer with Lavish--but the things I have learned here far surpass what I learned in training.

I just want you all to remember that no one is going to remember the name of the lashes you put on them as much as the quality of the work. If you sell your product ties to those labels someone down the street can market with the same "name recognition" and market your customer right away.

They want you as a "captive agent" I urge you all to free yourself from anyone that does this.

If you need a directory or website searches, this website is really high. I have a page for permanent makeup technicians, I can do one for the lash girls too.

Do not let a bully push you around.
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Karla Kwist,CPCP
Las Vegas

I thank you so much for this oppotunity.

Kara, did you know "How This Forum Saved My Life" ?
If not, please check
http://www.wakeupinyourmakeup.com/board/board_topic/3906889/324228.htm

Kara, you are the best!

divasbydesign@aol.com

I have classes myself for another week or two, so I won't be able to do it for two weeks, but it will give whomever is interested.

I mean really think about it ladies, pat yourself on the back you did not eat whatever they are feeding you!
You got involved and found and sought information and that is what makes you a professional, because you care enough to be the best.

Nobody owns you!
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Karla Kwist,CPCP
Las Vegas