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Good trainer in Colorado?
ColoradoEsty
335 posts Jul 04, 2010
8:48 AM
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Any of you know of a good source to find reviews or more information about PMU trainers?
I would like to take the training for this in September or so... I'd appreciate any referrals any of you may have.
Thanks!
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MzLips
59 posts Jul 05, 2010
2:03 PM
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Response to: ColoradoEsty: One of the first places you can start is by going to professional organization websites. Look for trainer members and then visit their websites. You can usually read their personal bio and see before and after photos of their work. Do your on-line research, then progress to e-mail and / or phone interview. Part of your decision may be determined by schedules and travel needs. Just like teachers in high school,college and career training, some teachers were more effective than others for your needs and learning style. When you have training that meets your needs and expectations, it is a win-win situation and that is the goal.
Consider some training before September 25th, the dates of the SPCP Fall Conference in New Orleans. Info at: www.SPCP.org
You can network with other members at the conference, learn a lot of important things (especially at the beginning of a new career) AND an industry specific Blood Born Pathogen (Very Important) class is included in the cost of the conference.
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ColoradoEsty
363 posts Jul 10, 2010
6:11 PM
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Hi again....
I sure appreciate the info about the fall conference!
Another Esty friend and I are considering trying to go to that together.
So... in the meantime... we've been tryin' to sort out **if** we can legally get training anywhere else other than Colorado. It's not lookin' good. :(
I wound up getting the approved list of "schools" (term loosely applied, it seems) that are able to give the certification to prove that we've done the required 132 hours of training that Colorado requires.
I talked to the Department of Occupational Private Schools yesterday... and was told that there might be a possibility of having someone over at the Cosmetology Licensing Department allowing us to have a certification from out of state if the training meets the requirements that Colorado has.
I realize that after we meet the first training requirement (132 hours), that we can get additional training anywhere... but it sure is annoying with the way this works here in Colorado.
A few things...
132 hours. Of which, 65 of them can be (and usually are) home study bookwork. Leaving 67 hours of practical. Schools are charging $3,500-$6,000 for this. (Gotta love a free market economy, I guess)
But this is really annoying:
To teach, the instructor must have held an esthetics license for 2 years and have the Micropigmentation Certificate (132 hours, remember).
So this means that an Esty that gets her 132 hours banged out today can start teaching tomorrow... and I know one place that is literally trying to do that right now.
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frostellie
480 posts Jul 12, 2010
10:02 AM
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Are you an esthetician? A friend of mine lives in CO and would very much like to learn and practice PM, but their requirements are that you have to be an esthetician which she does not want to be. If you are an esthetician, you can take it as a class at one of the esthetic schools. That is not to say it will be a good class, but you will need continuing ed anyway. I'm sure you're aware of some of this. I think it is ironic that you only have to take 132 hrs to practice PM and all the rest is esthetics, while here in Oregon, 360 hrs is required and it is virtually the same license as a tattoo artist. I paid $7,000 for my training and now it's up to $10,000. It sure would help if there were more consistent national standards. I think it would produce a higher quality of instructors too. As it is, the expertise of both the practitioners and the instructors are all over the map.
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ColoradoEsty
365 posts Jul 12, 2010
1:22 PM
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Tattoo artists don't need a license here - they just have to contend with some county health department guidelines.
The classes that I described above are from the esthetic schools. :(
Esthetics here is 600 hours, I believe... and the PMU certificate that is required is another 132 (minimum) on top of that.
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MzLips
64 posts Jul 13, 2010
1:56 PM
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One other thought to ColoradoEsty: check the SPCP website. www.spcp.org and see if you can network with some of the members in Colorado for their suggestions about training in your state. Still hoping that you (and your friend) work it all out so you can come to the New Orleans fall conference.
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ColoradoEsty
378 posts Jul 21, 2010
9:31 PM
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Ugh. I'm back. :)
I did find a recognized school that I think I'm really going to enjoy....
But I came back to the board here to tell you guys how annoying it is to see ads around for RNs teaching PMU, etc... when they are not legally doing it here. Any student that is stupid enough to plunk down $3,000-$5,000 to take it from some of these people is putting themselves in a bad situation should they ever have a run-in with the state board here.
**If** an RN is legal in applying PMU here (and I'm not sure whether that is the case, or not)... they absolutely are NOT recognized by the state to teach it unless they have 1) gotten a certificate themselves from an accredited school here (and not sure if they can do that, either without a cosmo or esthie license, too)... and 2) be a recognized "school" here... which takes $2,000 and other red tape to do.
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