You are creating a situation that a poor person has to live with, maybe forever! That orange and purple will come back time after time, regardless of the corrections that are done. They will require color neutralization many many times over the course of the years to get rid of that crap showing through. And worse, in the case of the spawning salmon orange, it even creeps and spreads over time, getting worse and fuglier!

Those pigments create a situation where the client has to have so much color put into their brows over time that it becomes almost impossible to give them a soft natural looking brow after a while. Eventually, they must learn to be 'happy' with a brow that looks artificial but is at least the right color. I hate this. I see it all the time. I'm just sick of it. I had to deal with 4 of them this week. Lousy technicians, and some supposedly good ones are all using this same garbage pigment. ARE YOU?

If you wanted to get good peachy lipcolor after a while use this company's browns for lips. I promise, it will be a lovely salmon peach in no time!

Please please, admit to yourself what is going on. If your clients are coming back to you with orange or purple brows, it is likely your pigments to blame. Fess up and get some pigments that don't do that to people. Enough!

Thank goodness for LI pigments. Some ohter lines mayu be OK, but to me, LI is an absolute godsend. I KNOW I am not causing this to happen.

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Jane Adler, CPCP
Facial Art by Jane
SofTap® Distributor
OSHA Outreach Instructor
http://www.janeadler.com

Hi all,

Judy has some very valid points. I am also sick of people not knowing their pigment colors undertones and using the wrong colors on the wrong skin type and using poor technique and blaming everything on the pigment line. People do need to take responsibility for weaker skill levels. Also that there is no always a perfect pallet.

Are there pigments better than others? Yep!!!! For me, I have used Softap only since 1996. Another line prior to that or I should say several.

I have seen work I did back in the day come back a faded version of what I originally did and some that were a faded peach tone. Why peach? Sometimes there are other factors out of my hands. Skin care products and sun sun sun sun sun are a big issue. Doing work that is too shallow can also be a problem or too deep. Especially, in AZ. I have never seen a purple brow come back to me. Yes, as the years go on and my techniques has improved I see far less of this.

I know for a fact, that technique is a huge factor. I taught for many moons, and student work tends to come back more faded and in the more pink and peach tones. Never seen it with lips. Other pigment lines, yes.

So my truth is use good and reputable pigments with strong technician support learn how to implant pigment on all types of skin textures, undertones and overtones. This can take years!! I do feel that medication is also a factor in some cases. How could it not be as it can affect your skin, hair, nails and the Integumentary system as a hole?

If all work is coming back with weird color results, switch brands and get more training. I understand what Judy is saying! clients do need t be educated on the fact color does and can fade. If it is immediate there is a big problem. Many pigments are $%)&^$$.

Just my opinions. I have had clients never fade, fade a little, fade out you name it. Corrective colors by companies like SofTap and LI are a fantastic thing to have as part of any pigment arsenal.

Climate is a huge factor in my personal opinion. I am in AZ and do a lot of woman that come in during the nice months of weather from the east coast. They almost never fade. It is very cool!

Using red based pigments on pink skin can be a problem. Keep in mind, that sun damaged skin is the hardest to read.

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Jane Adler, CPCP
Facial Art by Jane
SofTap® Distributor
OSHA Outreach Instructor
http://www.janeadler.com